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The Complexity of Chinese Archaeology and the Challenges of Understanding Ancient Chinese Civilization
TLDR Chinese archaeology presents challenges in understanding ancient Chinese civilization due to the disconnect between written texts and archaeological evidence, the diverse and complex nature of the Shang Dynasty, and the influence of nationalist discourse on the interpretation of the past. The recent discovery of the Ximao site further highlights the interconnectedness and complexity of different cultures in Eurasian history.
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00:00
Rod Campbell, an expert on the Chinese Bronze Age, discusses the disconnect between later written texts and archaeological evidence when it comes to understanding the Shang Dynasty and early Chinese civilization.
04:51
The different lenses of archaeology, texts, and later reflections provide contrasting perspectives on the past, making it difficult to piece together an accurate understanding of Chinese history, but the oracle bones offer a unique and potentially authentic glimpse into the concerns and beliefs of the Shang Dynasty.
09:45
The oracle bones are the earliest form of written Chinese, but there is debate about whether there were other texts that have been lost, and the question of how early writing actually began remains unresolved.
14:23
The archaeological evidence suggests that the central plains metropolitan tradition, which includes sites like Anyang, Arlito, and Arli Gang, were heterogeneous combinations of different types of pottery, houses, and populations, and while there is a dynasty on top, the social perspective of identifying as Shang is more interesting and complex, with questions about when and how individuals started thinking of themselves as Shang.
19:02
The Shang kingdom in ancient China was not a centralized nation state, but rather a collection of various systems of indirect rule with different lords and domains, which aligns more with the realistic model of how states operate based on anthropological research.
23:36
The use of violence and kinship can help us understand the Shang civilization and their practice of human sacrifice, which was a significant aspect of their worldview and belief system.
28:20
The concept of the state in ancient China is problematic and over-determined, with different terminology and conceptions of governance throughout different time periods, and the current nationalist discourse in China tends to view the past as a timeless extension of the desired present or future.
33:02
The concept of China as a nation state and the narrative of continuity throughout Chinese history shapes and warps the perspective of the past, despite the fact that the borders and cultures of ancient China were much more diverse and different from the modern nation state.
37:45
Ximao, a recently discovered site in China dating back to 2200-1800 BC, is considered the most exciting site in Chinese archaeology due to its massive stone walls, strange artifacts like jade scepters found in walls, and connections to the wider central Asian and north Asian steppe world.
42:41
The discovery of the Ximao site in China challenges the simplistic narratives of Chinese civilization, highlighting the interconnectedness and complexity of different cultures and networks in Eurasian history.
47:16
The interview discusses the potential for future discoveries in Chinese archaeology, the impact of scientific archaeology, and the debate surrounding the Xiang economy.
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