China's Long History of Environmental Impact and State Control

TLDR This episode explores China's history of human impact on the environment and the role of the state in environmental change. It discusses the use of various sources to study ancient environmental history, the connection between political thinking and environmental control, and the future of environmental history research in China.

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00:00 China's long history of human impact on the environment and the state's role in environmental change is the focus of this episode with Professor Brian Lander.
04:31 To study ancient environmental history, it is necessary to use a combination of sources such as archaeology, paleoecology, and texts, as texts alone do not provide the desired information about agricultural landscapes and daily human impact on the environment.
09:24 The use of textual evidence to understand political history in ancient China requires careful consideration of the time period and the potential biases of the texts, as well as the importance placed on these texts in Chinese scholarship.
13:49 The connection between how people in ancient China thought about the natural world and how they actually changed the environment is difficult to determine, but there is evidence that political thinkers from the Warring States period laid out a vision of how states would control the environment that ended up happening.
18:16 The connection between environmental catastrophes and the dissolution of political authority in ancient China is a topic of fascination and complexity that is difficult to fully understand due to the lack of documentary evidence.
22:38 The formation of states in ancient China allowed for large-scale environmental changes and the ability to mobilize labor for projects such as canal digging, dam building, and tree cutting, which non-state societies were unable to achieve.
27:39 The scale and power of Chinese organizations during the Zhou and Qin period, with centralized states and the ability to mobilize massive armies, set China apart from other parts of the world in terms of state power and bureaucratization.
32:02 China's trajectory of continuing growth in scale and lack of political system resets sets it apart from other parts of the world, with the Zhou period being de-urbanized compared to what came before and after.
36:48 The long-term continuities in administrative procedures and state structures in early China allowed for the retention of the bureaucratic system by nomadic groups who took control of politics because it provided an effective means of extracting surplus from the population.
41:58 The podcast discusses the metaphor of the shepherd and the sheep in Chinese thought, as well as the similarities in the treatment of people as disposable commodities in early Chinese states and other ancient civilizations like Egypt and Assyria.
46:29 The future of environmental history in China is exciting due to the increase in environmental archaeology and the focus on the modern period, but there is still a gap in research on the first 2,000 years of written text in China.
50:54 The future of environmental history in China is exciting as there is a lot of potential for research in the pre-modern field, particularly in analyzing classical Chinese texts from the last 1,000 years.

China's Long History of Environmental Impact and State Control

The State and the Environmental History of Early China: Interview with Professor Brian Lander
by Tides of History

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